on energy governor romney and i, we both agree that we've got to boost american energy production. >> those are big issues. social security can i just say for the record, the dude that mitt romney put on his ticket wrote the privatization plan to get rid of social security back during the bush years. so when you're asked about social security you would think you would heighten that contradiction. >> that was the point at which my head probably exploetded the most. i was like, what? yeah, i think you're right. i think if you go back to david axlerod had a lot of experience in running african-american candidates in illinois. he ran barack obama's campaign for statewide office. i think you have to realize that when you're running an african-american candidate in a nondistrict situation, right, there is always this modulation that occurs and that's the way axlerod had always run barack obama. he's always, as you said, he's never angry, always calm. no drama obama. that's part of his personality. >> the two go together. i don't think it completely comes from -- >> but he could have -- what